Starting football again

[bigmart]

There's a very terse statement on the o/s saying 20 people will be made redundant from the end of July.

very sad for those involved.

 

[drwhoman]

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Feel free to send them your thoughts. Some supporters have asked for Wembley refunds seeing as it was all for nothing.

I have Ian. I have slated Parry and asked them if they feel good about 20 people losing their jobs.

 

[aldoes mustache]

me to but as norm they won't give a rats butt, oh sorry that's PARRY would call him a cock but they are useful. and yes sham abt the 20 staff but what can the club do

 

[Ian]

This is the sad fallout when governing bodies have no spine and will not consider decent alternatives put to them. Going to be a bleak few months ahead.

 

[Boz]

Have to say from earlier remarks from Mark about the financial position of the club, I hadn't expected things to be quite this grim. Gutted for those who've lost their jobs and the future looks very uncertain just now.

 

[drwhoman]

I thought that, as usual, Mark’s comments were balanced and thoughtful. However, and quite rightly, he is clearly bitter about it all. Weasel words of condolence from other club chairmen. So much for the integrity of the game and the ‘football community’. All hogwash. Self interest is the key factor every time.

 

[ADD]

That was always going to happen I expect - companies have to start making a small contribution to the 80% salary from August...
On the other hand helps the mood music re legal case... wonder if the money that is supposedly in the pot from Bury etc. might find its way to us to avoid legal action.
Alan Nixon said some time ago that was potentially on the cards

 

[Boz]

Speculation that after the Rovers amendment was defeated, we did not actually vote to play on. While it's academic and wouldn't have made any difference, a little surprising if correct. It could make mounting a legal challenge a bit harder too.

I'm getting a bit concerned about how things are evolving. In the facebook Q&A {think} in April, the impression was that we had the funds to see us through the crisis. Yet once the outcome was announced, we're losing £1 million and making 20 employees redundant. Is the reality significantly worse than we were told? Even if the season had been played to conclusion behind closed doors, there was no certainty Rovers would have stayed up, in which case we'd have been down financially by the cost of playing those games on top of the £1 million. There's another facebook Q&A next week, will be interesting to see what comes out of that.

 

[aldoes mustache]

we have got to remember most of the 20 jobs are going to be bar jobs turnstile jobs, steward Jobs stuff to do with match day also I know a few kitchen jobs have gone to with no fans coming into the ground till at least next year they were never going to keep them on. so I don,t read to much into it if I'm honest that's my take on it still crap though

 

[Ian]

Not sure if the forecast in April included relegation to the tune of £1m. I think the forecast was for a couple of months but the reality is much worse.

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

I don't think the reality is worse than expected. We will have budgeted for this situation.

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

We knew we would not be playing in front of crowds for 6 to 12 months.

 

[ADD]

The Tranmere proposal went 7 for 55 against.....

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

Speculation that after the Rovers amendment was defeated, we did not actually vote to play on. While it's academic and wouldn't have made any difference, a little surprising if correct. It could make mounting a legal challenge a bit harder too.

I'm getting a bit concerned about how things are evolving. In the facebook Q&A {think} in April, the impression was that we had the funds to see us through the crisis. Yet once the outcome was announced, we're losing £1 million and making 20 employees redundant. Is the reality significantly worse than we were told? Even if the season had been played to conclusion behind closed doors, there was no certainty Rovers would have stayed up, in which case we'd have been down financially by the cost of playing those games on top of the £1 million. There's another facebook Q&A next week, will be interesting to see what comes out of that.

Palios knew all along that relegation and those losses were likely. It is not as if events in the last week have taken us by surprise. We are in better position to cope than most because of Palios's responsible stewardship and the Santini investment, not that any club can survive indefinitely without income.

We could afford to play on, so I don't believe the rumours. If we did vote to curtail it would purely be to show solidarity with clubs like Accrington who would have gone bust if forced to continue, given it was already inevitable we would lose the vote.

 

[drwhoman]

I see that the disunity in L 1 continues.Some clubs say they cannot afford to start next season without fans. There is also the issue of social distancing. The likes of Sunderland can do it with a big stadium but Accrington cannot. Shame the vote was not about the ability of clubs to survive financially on an ongoing basis! There is a desire to start next season in mid September but who knows! Maybe a vote to start then without fans might be a bridge too far for some clubs!

 

[Boz]

I didn’t get the vibe from the previous Facebook session that things were going to be dire if we got relegated, which was always a distinct possibility. The tone from Mark Palios this week has been much darker, have other things gone on in the last 6 weeks to make our situation worse?

When the vote to play on was going to be academic, there doesn’t seem any good reason for Rovers not to vote for it. Unclear why we haven’t declared our hand on that.

It’s a moot point as to when fans will be allowed into grounds again and the impact social distancing will have. We could probably accommodate season ticket holders if the social distance is reduced to 1metre which seems likely eventually, but wonder how viable that would be

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

Nothing has made our situation worse. Palios is emphasising the loss of income because we are potentially taking legal action against the EFL and to raise public awareness of the injustice of the situation.

There were two possibilities when Palios spoke in April: Covid and League One; Covid and relegation. Both will have been budgeted for and we can survive in both circumstances.

After the incredible work Palios has done to defend the club in recent weeks, let alone the work of the last five years, I do find it surprising that you are insinuating that his comments in April were at best naive and at worst dishonest. Do you really believe he is incompetent or untrustworthy ?

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

I didn’t get the vibe from the previous Facebook session that things were going to be dire if we got relegated, which was always a distinct possibility. The tone from Mark Palios this week has been much darker, have other things gone on in the last 6 weeks to make our situation worse?

When the vote to play on was going to be academic, there doesn’t seem any good reason for Rovers not to vote for it. Unclear why we haven’t declared our hand on that.

It’s a moot point as to when fans will be allowed into grounds again and the impact social distancing will have. We could probably accommodate season ticket holders if the social distance is reduced to 1metre which seems likely eventually, but wonder how viable that would be

You have absolutely no evidence we did not vote to play on. The details of the vote have not been released and even journalists who were leaked the result do not know how individual clubs voted. I think the 'rumour' - which I have not seen anywhere else - is rubbish.

Nicola Palios has said numerous times we could afford to play on. Do you think she was lying ?

 

[Ian]

No idea how the vote went but I don't think they wanted to play on. MP was dead against it in April and dismissed at the idea of playing in empty stadiums for financial and other reasons. Yes, they could have done it financially but it would not have been his preference.

 

[drwhoman]

No idea how the vote went but I don't think they wanted to play on. MP was dead against it in April and dismissed at the idea of playing in empty stadiums for financial and other reasons. Yes, they could have done it financially but it would not have been his preference.

Whether we wanted to play on or no is all history now. It would not have got up with so many clubs crying poor. I was reading about Wycombe, who were a non-league club not so long ago, and who have taken a vast amount or risk financially, moaning about playing on. I think the best we can do is to consider how our club is going to survive and prosper over the next year, given that football generally is a financial train wreck at present. Just as well that we got the Indonesian investment.