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nobody doubts he cares for the club but his decision making has been very poor for a while and most the rest is just the usual spin. Why he needs to mention that he used to be a player is not really relevant as the game has changed so much since then.
What is deeply worrying is his comments about luck, we are down the bottom as we deserve to be and its nothing to do with luck.
 
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nobody doubts he cares for the club but his decision making has been very poor for a while and most the rest is just the usual spin. Why he needs to mention that he used to be a player is not really relevant as the game has changed so much since then.
What is deeply worrying is his comments about luck, we are down the bottom as we deserve to be and it’s nothing to do with luck.
I’ve said before Mart that I do sometimes think his experience as a player and at the FA makes him a difficult chairman to work under.
He mentioned a few times he was a pro for 17 years and has been in dressing rooms etc.

Also on failed managers, the vast majority of managers have had an unsuccessful spell somewhere. Look at mourinho or conte. Both won loads but both sacked by spurs and Jose didn’t work out at Chelsea second time round. It is extremely rare to find a manager who doesn’t have one unsuccessful period on his CV
 
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The winning streak Dawes had first time round is just a classic case of new manager bounce. We were also terrible under Jackson and significantly under performing, so I suspect there was a bit of a regression to the mean going on. I’m not sure 5 wins (not 7) several years ago can be used to justify decision making in 2023. If anything it calls into question why he appointed Hill and then Mellon and not Dawes.

I do think Palios has the best of intentions and obviously cares. However it does also feel like there’s a growing complacency and arrogance (he’s always been a bit arrogant!) from the interview, that seems to be clouding judgments.

I’m really not sure what he’s basing the assertion that we will be safe on, has he seen our squad? - the midfield and central defence depth in particular!

The ‘not appointing failed managers’ stuff is complete drivel. Every manager in any job has failed at some point, it’s the nature of the industry. The question shouldn’t be ‘have they failed?’, it should be ‘what have they learnt to do differently as a result?’. Adkins for the last decade fits his criteria of failed manager, so shouldn’t be anywhere near the manager position based on his own arguments!

Obviously I don’t agree with everything he’s saying (that’s part of the fun), but I’m pleased he’s spoken and credit to him for doing that. I hope it’s a sign of a return to the more pro-active approach that characterised 2015-2019, I just hope the players take notice and take it up a few notches!
 

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I’ve said before Mart that I do sometimes think his experience as a player and at the FA makes him a difficult chairman to work under.
I think he tries to be too clever for his own good at times. The manager thing was a bit of a nonsense really. It is not a healthy situation when one person is running a business and has no-one to challenge his decisions. I also think there may be issues getting new investors in or takeovers as it seems he still wants a bit of the pie.

All credit to him though for putting a lot of time and money into the club. It's obvious he cares, that should never be questioned but he doesn't look that well and at 71, who would want the stress. It might be time for him to hand it over.
 
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The club has been a money pit for them since the second, third season in the national league.
And the decision making is all because of that.
It does seem, he comes over as to be lauded for his ownership, despite the way the club is now and the decisions.
Because he has been in the dressing room, does not make him an expert or knowledgeable about how to recruit or have a successful policy. Or how to run a football club.
He is instrumental in every decision and because of ego and denial, his and Nicolas hands on approach, is stifling that success that will bring in good ownership.
They were warned, about the financial stability of the club before they took over. And despite outside financial investment. We are staring that inevitable black hole of the national league again!


And that is my opinion. Not of them but how they do things.
 

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If we get relegated Palios can forget getting much of his money back and we will be heading towards financial disaster
 

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Nigel’s stats for us

Managed - 10
Won - 2
Drawn - 1
Lost - 7

Scored - 10
Conceded - 18
Clean Sheets - 1
 

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Paul,Hurst sacked by Grimsby. Comments by their chairman:

The underlying performances are not that bad, but actually that doesn't equate to positioning in the league. We're in a challenging position. I feel confident we've got the right players in the team and enough quality but there's something not quite working.
"There has to come a point where you go 'we need to change our own luck somehow, we can't just hope for the luck to change itself.'
 
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Looks like we are just going through the motions at the moment. Absolutely no life in the squad or the club.
I just don't believe they have any confidence, it shows in the body language and the decisions made on the pitch.
I also don't believe the changing room is in a good place at the moment.
And I would be on the lookout for a McNulty, Clarke character to name but two, to start changing it!

I am now of the opinion, it has been growing steadily, that even the best manager you could name, would get us winning in league two. Far too many poor signings/ characters!

The table never lies!
 
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Paul,Hurst sacked by Grimsby. Comments by their chairman:

The underlying performances are not that bad, but actually that doesn't equate to positioning in the league. We're in a challenging position. I feel confident we've got the right players in the team and enough quality but there's something not quite working.
"There has to come a point where you go 'we need to change our own luck somehow, we can't just hope for the luck to change itself.'
It's better to have a lucky manager, than a good one!
An old football saying!
 
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Paul,Hurst sacked by Grimsby. Comments by their chairman:

The underlying performances are not that bad, but actually that doesn't equate to positioning in the league. We're in a challenging position. I feel confident we've got the right players in the team and enough quality but there's something not quite working.
"There has to come a point where you go 'we need to change our own luck somehow, we can't just hope for the luck to change itself.'
Given Hurst’s achievements with Grimsby, I’m surprised. Very risky. They could do a Tranmere and melt down, as happened after Micky left us. Some chairmen don’t know when they are lucky.
 
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Paul,Hurst sacked by Grimsby. Comments by their chairman:

The underlying performances are not that bad, but actually that doesn't equate to positioning in the league. We're in a challenging position. I feel confident we've got the right players in the team and enough quality but there's something not quite working.
"There has to come a point where you go 'we need to change our own luck somehow, we can't just hope for the luck to change itself.'
I would be happy if we appointed Hurst. It won't happen of course.
 

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This is the sort of update we should be posting instead of Palio’s just sitting on his hands and hoping someone great comes along

 
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The chairman addressed it to a degree on Friday.

Note we have an interim manager, not a caretaker as Bradford and most other clubs (including, usually, us) do when they’re in between managers. Two different things. So different situations.

Interim until what, that’s the question. There must be good reason why that question hasn’t really been answered, hence speculation e.g. re: ownership, health, or whatever.
 
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I’m not sure if the Castore rumours have ever been mentioned on here, whether they’re in any way relevant to the ‘interim’ situation, or even whether there’s any truth to them.

Some folk reckon they might be preparing to invest, although the only ‘news’ I’ve seen linking them with us was this, a few weeks ago, from a supposed journo (whose reliability, from what I can recall, is patchy!)



Curious as to what a “technical partner” is.

Anyway, may be something or nothing, just throwing it out there.
 

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I do hope we get something sorted soon as this club is in need of serious investment.
 
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I think the difference between an interim and a caretaker manager is largely semantic.

However you look at it, we don't have a permanent manager and that results in uncertainty, particularly for the players.
 
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