Very O/T - Everton

[Rockford's Love Child]

Four down at home to Brighton after 55 minutes. Is this finally their year ?

 

[Sparky]

I live in hope RLC. At this rate they’ll have the best new stadium in the championship!

 

[O4anotherplayoff]

It looks very ominous.

I was talking to an Evertonian pal about this last week. When you can’t score goals but have to make do with signings like Maupay to address it then the alarm bells are ringing loud. Thing is, under the current ownership, even changing manager won’t do much. Whereas a few of their relegation rivals look like they might have some improvement in them.

If they did go down, you wouldn’t back them to come straight back up. In fact, if that happened, you wouldn’t entirely rule them out plummeting even further!

I’d always considered a certain comedy value in Everton going down, but I‘d hate to see the club decline long term.

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

You would imagine West Ham have the quality to pull clear, and clubs like Wolves and Forest have ambitious owners and a fair amount of money to spend.

Their survival last season was largely down to Richarlison. They are better defensively this season (aside from tonight) but seem to have even less quality in attacking areas.

 

[drwhoman]

Sadly, Everton are increasingly becoming an irrelevance. In the early 1960s they were the senior club in Liverpool, funded by the Moores pools family, and while they have has some good spells since, the reality is that they have not done much for the last 25 years other than survive in the PL. I recall going, as a child, to what was then a modern Goodison with some of my male relatives. Some great players amongst whom my favourite player was Alex Young, ‘the golden vision’ a Scottish centre forward. He just seemed to float over the ground! It maybe that to get back to the top they might need to become another Arab sportswashing project like City or Newcastle. Moshiri has put a lot of money into the Club which has not been spent well but at the same time I wonder where that comes from. He seems very close to Russian oligarchs whose business practices are highly questionable.

 

[bring back the cowshed!]

Well said, drwhoman. I saw my first match at Goodison in 1961. Back in the day, the norm was for all football clubs to be owned by local businessmen. Not always very well, but football had fewer competitors and wages were capped.

Nowadays, hardly any of the top sides, including a lot of EFL teams, are owned by rich foreigners. Why is this? Why so few English owners?

Some owners are relatively benign (Liverpool’s), but others have dodgy business models (the Glazers at Man U) or are just plain sports washing exercises (which seem to all pass the EPL’s fit persons test).

It makes me proud that we have a local owners, who love our club. But although they are wealthy, I think they are finding it more difficult to make progress than they thought. We all just need to be patient. Too many owners at other clubs spend too much unwisely and bankrupt their club and often themselves.

 

[ALDO MUSSY]

my first time going to Goodison was seeing a team in white batter them 3-0 what a day that was

 

[Keith Hill (Bolton)]

March 1968. FA cup. Got beat 2-0, hooked ever since!
I thought that there was a million packed into Goodison that afternoon!



Thehe truth is, they are not good at the moment, however a few good results could change things and I don't think they will go to down, and I don't believe the other team will qualify for European champions league.

 

[bigmart]

Same as last season, they are very poor with a poor manager but wont go down. Lampard won't last much longer

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

Same as last season, they are very poor with a poor manager but wont go down. Lampard won't last much longer

I think there are better teams around them this season and they don't have a goalscorer, unlike last year when they had Richarlison.

 

[bigmart]

I think there are better teams around them this season and they don't have a goalscorer, unlike last year when they had Richarlison.

I think Southampton Bournemouth and Forest will go down

 

[drwhoman]

March 1968. FA cup. Got beat 2-0, hooked ever since!
I thought that there was a million packed into Goodison that afternoon!



Thehe truth is, they are not good at the moment, however a few good results could change things and I don't think they will go to down, and I don't believe the other team will qualify for European champions league.

I was at that game. If memory serves me correctly, we were short of strikers due to injury and that hard but limited midfielder Gerry Casey was up front. We battled but quality told. I think a young Joe Royal scored?

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

Same as last season, they are very poor with a poor manager but wont go down. Lampard won't last much longer

I think Forest might stay up, possibly also Bournemouth.

 

[bring back the cowshed!]

I was at that game. If memory serves me correctly, we were short of strikers due to injury and that hard but limited midfielder Gerry Casey was up front. We battled but quality told. I think a young Joe Royal scored?

Indeed, your memory is correct. I was there too. When the draw was made, I was confident. We had beaten Coventry in the previous round and were in good form. In George Yardley, we had the leading goalscorer in all four divisions. Unfortunately, George suffered a horrendous injury a few days before the match. A high tackle In a league game cost him a kidney and nearly ended his career. We had no replacement as so brought in Gerry Casey, a very hard but limited player whose main claim to fame was being sent off on his football league debut. Under the circumstances, a 2-0 defeat was a very good performance.

 

[Ian]

I think they’ll drop. They cannot score goals due to their awful options up front.

 

[drwhoman]

Indeed, your memory is correct. I was there too. When the draw was made, I was confident. We had beaten Coventry in the previous round and were in good form. In George Yardley, we had the leading goalscorer in all four divisions. Unfortunately, George suffered a horrendous injury a few days before the match. A high tackle In a league game cost him a kidney and nearly ended his career. We had no replacement as so brought in Gerry Casey, a very hard but limited player whose main claim to fame was being sent off on his football league debut. Under the circumstances, a 2-0 defeat was a very good performance.

Alf Wood of Shrewsbury was the Yardley villain!

 

[Keith Hill (Bolton)]

I was at that game. If memory serves me correctly, we were short of strikers due to injury and that hard but limited midfielder Gerry Casey was up front. We battled but quality told. I think a young Joe Royal scored?

to be honest, all I can remember is the excitement, the smoke, the huge crowd and of course the noise.
The only other thing was pre match and at the Park End, there was a guy with a tall hat who conducted the singing.
Yes, from basic knowledge Joe Royle did score along with a certain Johnny Morrissey.....

 

[bigmart]

I think they’ll drop. They cannot score goals due to their awful options up front.

Rumoured to have had a bid turned down for Danny Ings so looks like trying to strengthen

 

[Rockford's Love Child]

Rumoured to have had a bid turned down for Danny Ings so looks like trying to strengthen

They are still struggling to comply with FFP, so their options will probably be more limited than the teams they are competing against.

 

[drwhoman]

to be honest, all I can remember is the excitement, the smoke, the huge crowd and of course the noise.
The only other thing was pre match and at the Park End, there was a guy with a tall hat who conducted the singing.
Yes, from basic knowledge Joe Royle did score along with a certain Johnny Morrissey.....

The guy in the tall hat was not me! (LOL!).