It shows how bad var is, Maguire was rugby tackled first half nothing given their penalty was never a penalty6-2 and I think the ref felt sorry for Iran giving that soft penalty in the end. Good, morale boosting victory for England and great to see a host of goalscorers.
Yes, the influential West has a long and impressive record of imposing its values and culture on others.There’s a stench about this tournament with the oppression that exists in the host country. Some say don’t mix politics and sport, I say those with influence should speak out.
One man’s virtue signalling is another man’s conscience. Give me the liberties we enjoy any day of the week, including the freedom to have contrasting opinions.Yes, the influential West has a long and impressive record of imposing its values and culture on others.
Well done FIFA for kicking the virtue signalling into touch. The underlying messages have been delivered anyway.
What nonsense.Yes, we’ve created our society which, for better or worse suits us, and the Arabs have created theirs which, for better or worse, suits them. Both have, and will continue to evolve in their own way. And long after most of the virtue signallers have stopped ‘caring’ about the latter, in a month or so.
USA 1 up against a very poor Wales team so far
Thought Wales played much better second half and deserved at least the draw they got. England sometimes get bogged down against the other home nations, but should be capable of beating the USA and reduce the importance of the final group matchYes, very poor bigmart. We should be comfortably winning this group.
I’m well aware - far more than clearly you‘d believe, given this ridiculous distortion of what I’ve said - that “all Arabs” don’t live in identical societies. Like, guess what, all Westerners don’t live in identical societies either.What nonsense.
Did the thousands of workers who were murdered to facilitate the tournament decide their fate ? Ordinary citizens don't 'create' their own society in an authoritarian state. Your suggestion that 'the Arabs' all live in identical societies, with an equivalent lack of concern for human rights, is also highly prejudiced and inaccurate.
There are justifiable humanitarian concerns regarding the staging of this tournament. I think by 'virtue signaller' you mean a human being with any kind of moral compass.
I really have no idea what any of this stuff has to do with perfectly understandable and justifiable complaints about a major sporting competition being handed to a country that commits flagrant human rights abuses. The very term 'virtue signaller' is pejorative, meaningless nonsense.By virtue signaller I’m referring to the faux white saviour types who delude themselves into thinking they have a monopoly on “conscience” - often through nothing more than tokenism - when, in reality, their only point of reference is their own cultural perspective, which just has to be held up as THE example to other cultures. THAT’s prejudice, incidentally, although they‘ll never see it that way.
Yes, precisely. Just as we should not condone the actions of Hitler or Stalin, we should not condone those of illiberal, repressive regimes outside Europe. And to pass a moral judgement on those regimes has nothing to do with 'virtue signalling'. It is about maintaining basic moral standards.I’m well aware - far more than clearly you‘d believe, given this ridiculous distortion of what I’ve said - that “all Arabs” don’t live in identical societies. Like, guess what, all Westerners don’t live in identical societies either.
The point is that what’s morally unacceptable to some societies is morally acceptable to others. To conflate that notion with attitudes towards the likes of Hitler isn’t just absurd, it’s an unexpectedly premature invocation of Godwin’s Law!Yes, precisely. Just as we should not condone the actions of Hitler or Stalin, we should not condone those of illiberal, repressive regimes outside Europe. And to pass a moral judgement on those regimes has nothing to do with 'virtue signalling'. It is about maintaining basic moral standards.
Time will tell if awarding Qatar the WC ultimately improved the situation on the ground, using any range of measures, or reinforced the status quo. It would also be good to compare those outcomes with the outcomes achieved by the virtue signallers with their various gestures.I really have no idea what any of this stuff has to do with perfectly understandable and justifiable complaints about a major sporting competition being handed to a country that commits flagrant human rights abuses. The very term 'virtue signaller' is pejorative, meaningless nonsense.