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Absolute bargains.Wow we payed250k for aldo and nevin
Absolute bargains.Wow we payed250k for aldo and nevin
Whether his face should appear on banners is debatable, but describing Mark Palios's connection with the club as being tenuous and transient is unfair. He played for us for nine years in two spells with some distinction including a promotion and a starring role in the win at Arsenal. He has put a lot of his money and time into the club. Despite continuing problems, he has been in charge for three and a half years and still seems as committed as ever.Given that we don't have banners of any club legend other than Kingy, I find it strange that TROSC opted for a flag of somebody whose connection with the club is pretty tenuous and transient in the scheme of things. I think all supporters groups should be coolly critical of club owners and I get the impression TROSC are too close to the Paliosi.
A lot of players have spent nine years with the club but have come nowhere near a banner. Bill Bothwell, Peter Johnson and Frank Corfe put a lot of time and money into the club, but have never appeared on a banner.Whether his face should appear on banners is debatable, but describing Mark Palios's connection with the club as being tenuous and transient is unfair. He played for us for nine years in two spells with some distinction including a promotion and a starring role in the win at Arsenal. He has put a lot of his money and time into the club. Despite continuing problems, he has been in charge for three and a half years and still seems as committed as ever.
My argument was not related to banners. I only queried your "tenuous and transient" description, which I consider unfair.A lot of players have spent nine years with the club but have come nowhere near a banner. Bill Bothwell, Peter Johnson and Frank Corfe put a lot of time and money into the club, but have never appeared on a banner.
Palios has stabilised the club off the field, but that is all at this stage. Banners should be reserved for those that have made substantial contributions over time - as I said, Peter Johnson does not have one.
It probably is to be honest, but I do get wound up at times by the sycophantic attitude of some supporters towards Palios. As Boz pointed out, he has made errors since he has been here, as well as greatly advancing the club in other ways.My argument was not related to banners. I only queried your "tenuous and transient" description, which I consider unfair.
Sycophancy is not good for anyone. Interesting that in football it’s usually the players (Beckham, Rooney) or the managers (Ferguson, Mourinho) rather than the owners who are the target, but it is always misplaced. At an age when most people would be thinking of retirement, Palios was looking for a challenge and certainly never saw it as making a quick buck and moving on. I do believe he is committed for the long term. He deserves our support and even a bit of praise, but not blind allegiance.It probably is to be honest, but I do get wound up at times by the sycophantic attitude of some supporters towards Palios. As Boz pointed out, he has made errors since he has been here, as well as greatly advancing the club in other ways.
Club Chairmen by definition have a 'tenuous' relationship with the club because they are not here for life, unlike supporters. I think supporters need to be clear-eyed when it comes to Chairmen, however well-intentioned they might be.
Yes, that's right. He even mentioned getting us into the Premier League, but that comment was a while ago! Obviously, he can't go on for ever, so he must be looking to sell at some stage. However, the Premier League comment led me to believe that he expected to be around for ten years rather than five.I was always under the impression he came in to stabilise and after a few years was going to sell it on. Maybe he’s waiting for the jump back into the football league. He could be waiting a long time...
I am not sure that is a fair statement to make. Palios has been here three years, whereas PJ was here for twenty seven. We don't know what Palios's attitude would be if he was still here in 10,15, 20 years time and unable to move the club on - or whether he would still be here. Even in the last couple of years PJ has been giving Palios financial support, which he is not obliged to.Unlike PJ though, I can't see MP letting the club slowly rot until a suitor is found.
+1For all his faults, Johnson refused to sell us to someone inappropriate well into his seventies, when he was due a retirement.