League Two Stags v Rovers

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  • Mansfield

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Tranmere

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Stags v Rovers
Posted by Ian
One Call Stadium
Saturday, August 6, 2022 - 03:00 PM
Until: Saturday, August 6, 2022 - 05:00 PM
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Burton has hardly featured for many years under Mellon so no reason to think we would need him now. Obviously with the injuries, we are a bit light but the squad will gel after a few games and we’ll get some better players returning to the squad before too long.
Surely he would have been worth a run out last week or even tomorrow as Mumbongo is not yet fit
 
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Surely he would have been worth a run out last week or even tomorrow as Mumbongo is not yet fit
Taylor probably offers as much from the bench anyway. I really don't think it is a big deal.

Ultimately, Burton probably is not good enough for us.
 

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Davies and particularly Turnbull will provide leadership when they are available. I think Hemmings is actually pretty vocal on the pitch, but not in a domineering, Peter Clarke fashion.

I think Mellon believes Taylor is better than Burton, which is why Jake has been allowed to leave.
I forgot about Taylor but without being harsh, from what I’ve seen I’m not sure he’s the answer in the short term. Time will tell
 
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I forgot about Taylor but without being harsh, from what I’ve seen I’m not sure he’s the answer in the short term. Time will tell
I don't think either are the answer.

We need Mumbongo to get fit and another loan striker to arrive. Until then, we are where we are.
 

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We really do need Turnbull and Davies. Anyone any idea when they will play? The squad looks light without them. No stand outs in midfield and heavy reliance on Hemmings to score goals. I am not convinced Nevitt has got it at our level however hard he tries. Sorry to sound so negative but I cannot see promotion with this team. Maybe one or two quality loanees will transform things!
 

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Burton has hardly featured for many years under Mellon so no reason to think we would need him now. Obviously with the injuries, we are a bit light but the squad will gel after a few games and we’ll get some better players returning to the squad before too long.
Unsure where you get the many years from Ian, as he only made his debut about 20 months ago in the covid-hit Salford game. Burton is another player like Merrie who Mellon doesn't seem to rate, despite a promising cameo and a goal in the pre-season friendly at Fleetwood. What I don't understand is why we bothered to offer a new deal to a player who doesn't appear to have any future at the club.
 
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Unsure where you get the many years from Ian, as he only made his debut about 20 months ago in the covid-hit Salford game. Burton is another player like Merrie who Mellon doesn't seem to rate, despite a promising cameo and a goal in the pre-season friendly at Fleetwood. What I don't understand is why we bothered to offer a new deal to a player who doesn't appear to have any future at the club.
Yes, that is at least two players Mellon did not particularly rate out of about 600 he has given a contract two in his time as manager here.....

Perhaps he needed to see Burton at close quarters for an extended period before making a decision on him ?
 

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Yes, that is at least two players Mellon did not particularly rate out of about 600 he has given a contract two in his time as manager here.....

Perhaps he needed to see Burton at close quarters for an extended period before making a decision on him ?
I think there have been more. However with regard to Burton, he had the whole of last season to take a look.
 

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@Boz Probably a bit misleading bit I meant he's been around the club for a few years, under-18s etc..

@drwhoman Surely we don't really know the strengths and weaknesses after just one game?
I take your point Ian and I know I am being negative but the squad less Davies and Turnbull does not give me a good feeling. A 2-0 win at Mansfield then!
 
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I am pretty sure that it was Vaughan's decison to extend Burton whilst it was equally MM's decision to only have Taylor on the bench though I would wager he had zero intention of ever putting him on despite the fact we were losing and Nevitt was doing very little.

As to players being frozen out Merrie was used merely as an example by Boz rather than the only other out of 600 - Walker being an immediately obvious one from last season. Like Merrie, MM clearly doesn't rate Burton (rightly or wrongly) despite as Boz says scoring a good goal in pre-season and offering pace that Nevitt doesn't have. A loan at Marine will be great for him and if he does well can be recalled if required as Jolley was last season.

As to the game itself looking forward to this one. Not expecting us to win but hoping for a far far better performance than last week. Would be happy with a score draw.
 

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Goals goals goals we were promised but if you.loik at the squad it's unlikely to happen, we just have hope Hemmings can stay fit or we will be in big trouble
 
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I am pretty sure that it was Vaughan's decison to extend Burton whilst it was equally MM's decision to only have Taylor on the bench though I would wager he had zero intention of ever putting him on despite the fact we were losing and Nevitt was doing very little.

As to players being frozen out Merrie was used merely as an example by Boz rather than the only other out of 600 - Walker being an immediately obvious one from last season. Like Merrie, MM clearly doesn't rate Burton (rightly or wrongly) despite as Boz says scoring a good goal in pre-season and offering pace that Nevitt doesn't have. A loan at Marine will be great for him and if he does well can be recalled if required as Jolley was last season.

As to the game itself looking forward to this one. Not expecting us to win but hoping for a far far better performance than last week. Would be happy with a score draw.
So that is another fringe youth player who clearly was not good enough that you cite as somebody 'frozen out' by Mellon.

If you had some examples of youth players released by Mellon that went on to have stellar careers elsewhere, your argument might be convincing.
 

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If Mumbongo isn't fit I'd prefer it if Micky only played one up front supported by two no.10 types. Might be a bit more creative and can offer support in front of the centre midfields.
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3 x fit CBs
Cogley, O'Connor, Merrie, Bristow

McAleer, Nolan

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I am not sure I agree. If Hemmings is on his own up front there is a danger he will be very isolated and we will struggle to retain the ball.

I think Lewis or Nolan will come into midfield in place of Hawkes, to give us a bit more control.
 

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I doubt from MMs pre-match remarks that there will be much change from last week's line up. With the fit personnel we've available I'd be tempted to go 4 at the back and pack the midfield, but that won't be happening.
 
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