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Boz said:
I don't disagree with your conclusion, but am interested why you think Lowe with an average L2 budget would work for us?
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If Palios remains, the task for any manager will be to avoid relegation next season. I think Lowe would be more likely to achieve that than a number of the probable alternatives.
 
Rockford's Love Child said:
If Palios remains, the task for any manager will be to avoid relegation next season. I think Lowe would be more likely to achieve that than a number of the probable alternatives.
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It’s an interesting one from Lowe’s perspective. After a bit of a disaster at Wigan, would he want to risk working with Palios and a lower budget than he’s been used to? One poor management stint on a CV can be explained away, but two a bit harder. Does anyone know more about the Wigan situation and why it went so wrong for Lowe?
 
I'll go all in here. Lose won't come under Palios. Other than Mark staying as non-owner as a deal sweetener.
Lowe is Adkins pay grade and won't come on a cheap deal like Nigel did. Plus a poisoned chalice for someone with a CV.
 
O4anotherplayoff said:
Pretty fair critique of Lowe by one respected pundit:

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I agree with this article. I’m not a fan of Lowe’s attitude. Some would call it ambition, I’d call it disloyalty and self-interest. He broke his contract with MK Dons to come to us, then did the same to us to move to Bury. As a manager, he continued the habit. If he came here and got us into the playoff zone, he’d likely jump ship again mid-season for a better offer.

However, I agree that he would only come here on good money and a healthier budget.
 
Any manager is going to be far from perfect and to be honest, within reason I’d take just about anybody if they can stop the rot and get us climbing the table for a change. Especially if Palios is still in charge. We barely have 11 players and a number of them are in their 30s or injured. It’s a big job for anyone that comes in to rebuild.
 
Sparky said:
Any manager is going to be far from perfect and to be honest, within reason I’d take just about anybody if they can stop the rot and get us climbing the table for a change. Especially if Palios is still in charge. We barely have 11 players and a number of them are in their 30s or injured. It’s a big job for anyone that comes in to rebuild.
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Not to mention the serious lack of coaches.
 
bring back the cowshed! said:
I agree with this article. I’m not a fan of Lowe’s attitude. Some would call it ambition, I’d call it disloyalty and self-interest. He broke his contract with MK Dons to come to us, then did the same to us to move to Bury. As a manager, he continued the habit. If he came here and got us into the playoff zone, he’d likely jump ship again mid-season for a better offer.

However, I agree that he would only come here on good money and a healthier budget.
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He negotiated a termination at MKD and we sold him. Nothing unusual and as for managers, you are either on the verge of sacking or being pinched mainly
If he came he wouldn't be poached readily, as he is a known known now.
 
If the Club is currently appointing a manager on the basis that the take-over won't take place and we'll have to move to bid 3 or 4, that would be a very different appointment than the Club acting to appoint on a manager on behalf of the new owners. New owners can't appoint anyone, can't create contracts etc. until the sale has completed, but they are probably very aware of the need to get a manager in place sooner than later, so it's quite likely that they would 'engage' the club to act on their behalf until the sale is completed. The fact that all out of contract staff have been let go (whether players or management) does seem to indicate that both club and new owners expect the sale to complete sooner than later. One thing to note again though, though new owners will be able to splash cash on infrastructure, they aren't going to be able to on either players or coaching staff any more than we've been able to up to now. Expenditure is limited to a percentage of turnover whoever is in charge, and the 'loophole' of an owner putting money in weekly to cover wages has been substantially closed too. It's also worth noting again that DAV have a dramatically different approach to things, they are sports science and data driven making extensive use of AI. They are likely to go for a head coach rather than a manager, for instance, and so anyone being talked to for the job now would be being told what their plans are (all 'speculation' of course until officially announced)
 
Sparky said:
Rumours Ryan Lowe and Mat Sadler were interviewed yesterday
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Interesting, Sadler is definitely the sort of 'coach' that the new owners might go for (Head Coach at Walsall rather than manager) with a points per match of 1.5+ despite being sacked for several poor runs, and also has experience as a youth coach and technical coach. Lowe on the other hand, though used to being 'Manager' rather than Head Coach, and despite not exactly dynamic stats, does tend to play the sort of attack minded football that again, the incoming owners prefer, so it could be said that either would fit what the new owners, rather than current, were looking for.
 
StuartR said:
Interesting, Sadler is definitely the sort of 'coach' that the new owners might go for (Head Coach at Walsall rather than manager) with a points per match of 1.5+ despite being sacked for several poor runs, and also has experience as a youth coach and technical coach. Lowe on the other hand, though used to being 'Manager' rather than Head Coach, and despite not exactly dynamic stats, does tend to play the sort of attack minded football that again, the incoming owners prefer, so it could be said that either would fit what the new owners, rather than current, were looking for.
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The problem is the rumour also says it's Palios doing the interviewing and his record of appointing managers is very poor.
 
bigmart said:
The problem is the rumour also says it's Palios doing the interviewing and his record of appointing managers is very poor.
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His record of appointing external managers is certainly not very poor.

After Walsall’s remarkable collapses in the second half of both the last two seasons, Sadler would be the continuity candidate for us!
 
O4anotherplayoff said:
His record of appointing external managers is certainly not very poor.

After Walsall’s remarkable collapses in the second half of both the last two seasons, Sadler would be the continuity candidate for us!
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Adams got us relegated, Brabin failed to get us out of the National League, Hill got us into the play offs but what he said got him sacked. So besides Mellon and to a lesser degree Hill the external appointments have hardly been a success.
 
bigmart said:
Adams got us relegated, Brabin failed to get us out of the National League, Hill got us into the play offs but what he said got him sacked. So besides Mellon and to a lesser degree Hill the external appointments have hardly been a success.
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It’s ridiculous to suggest Brabin was a failure. He turned the ship around. Just because he couldn’t then sail it back to port in his only full season doesn’t make him a ‘very poor’ appointment.

Even St Michael of Mellon needed two bites at it, both here and at Oldham, to get out of the NL.
 
bigmart said:
Adams got us relegated, Brabin failed to get us out of the National League, Hill got us into the play offs but what he said got him sacked. So besides Mellon and to a lesser degree Hill the external appointments have hardly been a success.
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Mellon was the only genuinely 'good' appointment Palios made.

I would class Brabin and Hill as mediocre. They were both heavily backed, but the former missed out on the play offs prior to the wheels falling off in the early weeks of the following season; the latter limped into the play offs in such poor form that we had no realistic chance of promotion, despite having one of the biggest wage budgets in the division.
 
In terms of the next appointment, Palios is far less engaged, and the club is far less attractive to potential managers, than when Brabin, Mellon or Hill were appointed.

Hence, there is reason to be wary.
 
And MP finally having to abandon the internal production line he’d tried to instigate - which only resulted in a series of failed appointments - might actually give cause for hope. At least a glimmer.
 
O4anotherplayoff said:
It’s ridiculous to suggest Brabin was a failure. He turned the ship around. Just because he couldn’t then sail it back to port in his only full season doesn’t make him a ‘very poor’ appointment.

Even St Michael of Mellon needed two bites at it, both here and at Oldham, to get out of the NL.
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Brabin couldn't even get us in the play offs despite being well backed, Micky then took over and got us to two play off finals and got us promoted, one of his 6 promotions. Brabin meanwhile has no promotions as manager
 
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